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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby SomersVet » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:09 pm

This ends the put downs.
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby Marcella » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:57 pm

I hope everyone takes my Snarky post in a positive manner. I do not like having to get on to anyone but sometimes as an administrator you have to step in and stop the madness! Please take it as a positive experience. We all need to learn from our mistakes and hopefully we can all now get back to a positive forum experience. :P

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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby david » Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:26 pm

I have not posted in quite a while, watching HR 2254 from the sidelines, but totally support the passage of this bill from its inception. since I am a SAC veteran of the Air Force I try not to muddy the water of the BWN wishing them Fallowing Seas and clear sailing. I will only add my best to my comrades in arms to perserver and pursue all those who would try to minimize in any way HR 2254 in any way until we can get this vital legislation passed and nailed down. Because any right thinking person should see the wisdom of non interferrance given the battles The BWN is fighting for all of us. The BWN are my heroes for their ongoing fight against our domestic enemies who have turned on all of us to deny,deny, til we die, Beware of their Treason, no other word fits this bunch!
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby freeman44jm » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:48 pm

Thanks for your post. I feel confident that I speak for all when I say "all for one, and one for all". The fact of the matter is that anyone near Vietnam on the water, in the air, or in adjacent countries were probably exposed and deserve compensatiuon and recognition. I wonder what they are doing with the IOM report, and how they will try to get around it?
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby david » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:40 pm

We must never let them think just because we put the ball in their court, they have carte blanche to take their good easy time in responding to us. I am constantly in attack mode and have been since 1970 when I finally figured out what was and is still happening to me. The Stocking Glove peripheral neuropathy is the common thread affecting probably 85 to 90% of most veterans and I am still fighting them tooth and nail until we can get HR 2254 passed and rammed down their throats. This is the unifying thread common to all of us. We draw strength from each other.
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby jcovington6 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:08 am

Hell it will be easy to get around the IOM. No one has even publicly mentioned it in so far as the BWN is concerned.
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby david » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:17 pm

One thing I still try and drive home is the need for all of us to find "OTHER" presumptive ailments as I did with Stocking Glove Peripheral Neuropathy as the way to squeeze between the cracks and get a favorable ruling, not the one I felt I deserved but good enough to win a Service Connection never the less, This is why I stress never quit because they won't and it just might be the one they pay off on.
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby Ken Hummel » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:08 pm

jcovington6 wrote:Hell it will be easy to get around the IOM. No one has even publicly mentioned it in so far as the BWN is concerned.


Not neccesarily true Joe, I know that Senator Reid, Senator Ensign, and Gillibrand just for a few, and there are many many more who have the IOM report. For public awareness, this may not be much news, however, the ones of importance that can make change are the ones that must know, and in all reality, BWN folks have done a great job letting their house members know the facts.

From my little crystal ball, something is lurking around the corner, hopefully it isn't constipation, acid reflux, or some other new diagnosos from the Doctors at the VA Hospitol.....LOL

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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby gunlineman1 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:33 pm

Ken, I applaud your efforts, just one question. You said that Sen Reids office said that you might get Sen Ensign to bring up the bill in the Senate. That would be great, but what confuses me is that Sen Ensign is a Republician. I wonder how Reid would think having a Rep. bring it up would allow it to move through the Senate, since they all vote on party lines. I know on Veteran issues they sometimes vote together, whats your thoughts on this matter ?
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby Ken Hummel » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:23 pm

This is something that shouldn't be a party issue, due to the fact that it is already law and shouldn't even be in this situation "LEGALLY". My meeting with Reids staffers as I mentioned before, found them not to be very informed about what has been happening with the BW sailors since the change in 02.

Now for Mr. Ensign, this was a recommend by Herbert, infact after a couple of weeks of not getting the response from his staff or him, I became frustrated with it and contacted Reids staff again, (Mr. Herbert) through email, which I recieved a response within the hour and one from Ensigns legislator personnel who handles all the proper work that goes along with it.

Now, for such an immediate response and from across the aisle, it makes me believe the issue wont be a party issue. Infact, when I mentioned to Ensigns staffer that all we needed was some one to help put the law back as it was and finding a senator to carry it through once it hit the floor, he mentioned because Ensign was not part of the Veterans Affairs Committee they have a tendancy to stay away from those kinds of bills. I followed up with a remark that sort of stopped him in his tracks for a second when I asked him why someone wouldn't support this beings it is and has been law for many years.

Also, and if you are not aware of the situation, this action could take a little heat off him beings he is in a mud slinging period by the press, and other politicians for an affair that has come to the surface in the past few months. Infact, while they were home a few weeks back, he got caught up in the news pretty bad about it. Honestly, I never wanted to seek him out for this because I have attempted to contact him before about our issues that he never ever responded, so to pursue him now was not all of my choosing. But, if it will get it on the floor as a senate version, he can sleep with who ever he wants to and I could care less. Infact, maybe him and "Slick Willey" can compare notes about how you are not suppose to get caught.

I don't expect him to seek re-election after all this hoop-la, not because of the fling, but for the most part he just dosen't do anything for his people. He is hardly ever on the news about issues about anything, so to me it is time to place him on the unemployment line for what he dosen't do between vacations. To not have him follow through with this will not surprise me, but if he does....well, I could be shocked and surprised!!!!
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby TheFith » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:46 pm

Marcie and Stabac,
Try to ignore Sommervet. Several months ago I tried working with him and explaining that no one on this site is going to give him a hard time about his trans gender issues. I tried hard to work through the issues with him, but it seems that he is STUCK in the POOR ME CAMP. I gave up and I hope he can resolve his problems elsewhere other than on here. I wish I had seen his post way before this, I could have saved everyone a lot of frustration and confusion. My suggestion is to ignore him and any and all posts he makes until he stops blaming everyone else and faces life like the rest of do.
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby daklander » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:33 pm

TheFith wrote:Marcie and Stabac,
Try to ignore Sommervet. Several months ago I tried working with him and explaining that no one on this site is going to give him a hard time about his trans gender issues. I tried hard to work through the issues with him, but it seems that he is STUCK in the POOR ME CAMP. I gave up and I hope he can resolve his problems elsewhere other than on here. I wish I had seen his post way before this, I could have saved everyone a lot of frustration and confusion. My suggestion is to ignore him and any and all posts he makes until he stops blaming everyone else and faces life like the rest of do.


Terry, you're late to the gate in this post above and out of line and unwarranted, IMHO. Notice her last post here was August 13th and I think she has a grasp of what our goals are and where we are coming from and has not posted anything to the contrary though she has posted items in another thread that pertain to her agenda. Though it doesn't pertain to the Blue Water Navy issues per se, the thread is in Off Topic and is information that everyone should be aware of, whether or not they agree with the principal.
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby TheFith » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:56 pm

Your way are off base. I talked with Sharon on the phone for months about the issues she faces as a trans gender. I did everything I could to assure her that no one would discriminate against her on our board. She joined our group and even donated a small amount for dues. As much as I tried to help her refocus her attention from how she feels about when people give her a hard time, to what she can do to help others.
It was working and she had changed her feelings. Yet somehow she feel apart again and started blaming everyone under the sun for her problems. Her relationship broke up, the church she was going to was not what she thought it would be.
She fell back into feeling sorry for herself and started doing the poor me thing again. You could go back to January and Feb and read her comments and see that she was blaming everyone then.
Rather than have a positive attitude, she has such a neg attitude that she has been kicked off several other boards that are out there.
So please before you say the post was unwarranted you might want to ask me why I said what I did. I said that I wish I had seen Sharons post earlier, then I could have responded to her and maybe even helped the situation out.
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby Mac » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:15 pm

I was hoping this thread was going to fade away , it needs to.
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Re: Sorry to report negative

Postby daklander » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:11 am

My post was simply about your statement on this thread a month after her last post Terry. I could care less about any other issues or threads at other times. Coming in a month after the fact with your remarks is wrong, IMHO, and I stand by my statement.
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