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m21- revision comments

Postby ALBERT » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:00 pm

how many people have posted a comment on the m21-1 revision
how many people want to
how many dont care
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Postby jim_m » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:28 pm

Albert,
I was under the impression that NVLSP was going to post some info on thier web-site,but as of now no such thing. I kinda wanted to have more info on this matter before I go off and not know what I'm talking about. I am concerned that if they recend M-21 back and re-write it, then they may try and take back the benefits they have to award because when they recend it, the law would have to go back to pre-2002 status. I'm also concerned about what fate awaits those who have not filed a claim as of yet and the ones that will become sick in the future.
We are running out of time as you stated. My Senator stated we would have to wait until a decision on the Haas case in rendered be fore they would know if the congress would have to get involved.Take this for what it is worth,for I have little hope for anything a politician says anymore. It seems as if lies flow from thier mouths like water down a sewer drain. Jim

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Postby STABAC » Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:05 pm

Jim I'm not real sure what you are saying, could you maybe restate it so even a "dumb swabbie' could understand it. What exactly is the pre 2002 status....are you suggesting they might want repayment of benefits already paid? (I've never received any, but I would like to know). What about all the previous mentions of "law of the land"? Can they change a law retroactively to exclude everyone and everything? I'm more than a little confused.
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Postby jim_m » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:08 pm

As I understand it the VA changed the M-21 provisions in 2002 so you would have had set foot on land for presumption of exposure to AO. This is part of the Haas case. They did it without following proper procedures. M-21 stated that onyone,without contridictory evidence,who recieved the Viet Nam Service Medal was presumed to have been exposed to AO. If the VA recends M-21,(only if they lose the Haas case)as I understand it, all claims filed with the VA would have to be considered the same as before this provision was changed in 2002.
They are proposing to recend M-21 and re-write it acourding to the provisions of the law this time,which most likely will leave out BWN and the Thailand Vets again. However,new claims filed up until the date that the new regs. go into effect would have to be treated as they were prior to 2002.
Now,if they rewrite M-21,and make it about as it is now,my question is will they be able to take back any awards of compensation they may give to the Veterans who have claims in now, like they tried or did sever the benefits of some Vererans in 2002. Jim

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Postby ALBERT » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:26 pm

guys this is the time we did not have in 02,instead of getting to deep and waiting for rick we have 30 days to submit our own opinions so instead of a debate lets do what we were not able to do in the past lets give our opinion.some of you old timer on the old board may remember what i posted from akakas secretary before sb2026 was introduced by request(there seems to be no interest in changing the agent orange act in the veterans community)so guys we need to have our say it may not matter but lets give our opinion and pass the word to your politicians to do the same.its sad tha we have over 200 members on this board and only 6 opinions have been given.i gave mine and i am going to do it again.j.r. get in touch with rick we need their help
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Change to the M21-1 Manual

Postby SNOWCRAB » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:58 pm

I SUBMITTED MY COMMENTS TODAY 01/16/08. I THINK THAT EVERY SAILOR IN THIS FORUM OUGHT TO DO THE SAME THING. IF YOU DON'T WE WILL CALL YOU A WAVE. :lol:
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Postby Bluesman » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:49 am

I posted about a month ago. Can you post more than once? I'll go post again if you can.
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Postby gunlineman1 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:25 pm

Albert I posted today.
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